When his wife became pregnant with their fourth child Greg panicked, but a focus on the family counselor put everything into perspective.

He said, the first thing you need to realize if kids are a blessing, or all of the

blessing, that their gifts from God, and the second thing you said was, kids value

relationships, not stuff. Greg and his wife found the encouragement they needed and today they have a happy thriving family of seven children.

We have been really influenced by the culture and by just the kind of overall negativity about kids and to hear from someone, you know,

just godly truth that kids are special, that they're wanted and that they're a blessing was huge to us.

I'm Jim Daly and we love kids.

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A lot of us have secrets and it may be that you have a secret that you haven't

yet shared with your spouse but like medicine to an ailing body, that level of honesty and truthfully light can bring healing

to your past hurts.

I'm John Fuller along with Dr. Greg Smalley and his wife Aaron, they hit up the marriage department here at

Focus on the family. Greg, being vulnerable is really risky, but it's really good

for a marriage. Why is that? Yeah, just the other day. I was I was in a funk. I was feeling depressed

There had been some things that had been going on within our family extended family that just left me

It had honestly it a bad place. I could feel the depression.

And typically, what I would do is just kind of ignore it or just go into my cave at home, disconnect.

And yet I thought about it and went,

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