From the Theology of the Body Institute, this is the Ask Christopher West podcast.

Welcome to another episode with us. We're happy to be with you today. Thanks for joining us.

Yeah. We mentioned on our last episode about T.O.B.1, which was a joy to experience and for me to meet many of the students. I'm sure not as many as would be wonderful, even more wonderful, but I'm grateful for those I did meet.

And I wanted to share something with our listeners about just an insight and actually kind of, in part, confirmed an instinct I had.

And in part was like, wow, it's even greater than I thought.

And it was a definite eye-opener for me, like a shift in my understanding.

Yeah, so I was sitting with some young people who were taking the course.

I'm so glad they came.

We had a lot of young people.

Yeah.

I always ask at the beginning of the week, raise your hand if you were born in the 2000s, the 90s, the 80s, the 70s, the 60s, the 50s. And we had a lot of people born in the 2000s. Like, it's great to have so many young people. It was wonderful. And it was just a good perspective for me to get sitting with some young people.

We were talking about Pope John Paul II.

Obviously, they were taking a course in Theaal to the Body, which is his teaching.

And someone asked them, had they heard of John Paul II before coming to the course?

And three young people, born around the time he died, had not really heard of Pope John Paul II.

One said, well, I had heard of him, but what I heard was kind of negative.

And so that just in itself, like just pause, like, they don't know who this

person is. And so, like, here we are, like, we're just kind of Pope John Paul the second. Like,

without consciously choosing to, we've just incorporated into our expectations of other people that

they have some positive frame of reference about him, because we have it, you know, because we grew up, you know, with him.

He was our man, he was our pope.

Yeah, and he's our hero.

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