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Choosing Bravery Over Perfection, with Reshma Saujani of Girls Who Code

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Entrepreneurship, Business, Careers

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2019

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Reshma Saujani, founder of Girls Who Code, joins host Sophia Amoruso to discuss her new book, Brave, Not Perfect: Fear Less, Fail More, And Live Bolder. In it, Saujani argues that there's a stark, cultural difference in how we are raising boys and girls to approach risk-taking and failure. As in, boys are taught to embrace risk and see failure as inevitable while girls are taught to strive for perfection and to lean toward what they're good at. And it's in that quest for perfection that makes it especially challenging for women to veer from their comfort zone. We come to see failure, Saujani tells Sophia, as a thing to avoid at all costs. The solution? Approach life and your career with a mindset focused on bravery—not perfection. Listen in to hear Saujani recount what it’s like to have your dad deal with trolls online, how we can overcome the pitfalls of living in a success-driven culture, and much more. To find out more about Girls Who Code, go to → https://girlswhocode.com/ Get your copy of Brave, Not Perfect: Fear Less, Fail More, And Live Bolder here → https://amzn.to/2I7v2DJ

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0:00.0

Hey guys Sophia here. I'm so excited to be back in your ears for the return of Girl Boss Radio.

0:11.0

We took a little break over the holidays and then for a little while after that so we could rest,

0:15.6

reflect and come back with a show that's smarter, more impactful, more entertaining, and more useful

0:20.8

than ever before because Girl Boss is all about improving and evolving at every turn.

0:26.0

Today I'm back with a guest I'm giddy with excitement over, someone who embodies the idea of living and pursuing success on your own terms and someone who is literally

0:34.8

changing the future of some of the most broiest industries you can think of for the better.

0:40.4

I'm talking about Reschma Sejani, the founder of Girls Who Code.

0:44.0

In her new book, Brave Not Perfect, Fear Less, Fail More, and Live Boulder,

0:48.0

Reshma argues that there's a stark cultural difference in how we are raising boys and girls to approach risk-taking

0:54.9

and failure.

0:55.9

If you're an athlete, right, and you're trying to get excellent at the sport you're at, you're

1:00.0

going to get a lot of failure and a lot of rejection.

1:02.6

And we often don't let our girls feel that way, but we encourage our boys to feel that way because

1:07.6

we think that we have to toughen them up in the world.

1:10.3

The end result, she says, is that we all lean toward what we're good at and become afraid of stepping out of our comfort zone.

1:17.0

And then we come to see failure as a thing to avoid at all costs.

1:21.0

But that's obviously not a status quo we can get comfortable with here at

1:24.2

Girl Boss. So what's the solution? Reshma walks me through it in our

1:28.3

conversation ahead. I guess where I want to start is you know you grew up the daughter of refugees and you're you know looking at

1:45.4

your educational history it seems like you're an all-star student but you

1:49.6

applied to Yale Law School three times two times and you were rejected three times before finally

1:56.7

being accepted, where did you get that resilience?

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