From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment, the Home Edition. You know that by now. I'm Elvis Mitchell. My guest,

it's always nice to have somebody come back when she was last

here for her second feature of the writer. Apparently it's when she made the connection to

get to work on what is now her new feature, Nomad Land, when she connected with the film's star and

producer, Francis McDormand. Of course, I'm talking to director Chloe Zelle. Chloe, thanks so much for coming back.

Thanks for having me. It's good to be back.

It's so interesting watching these three movies together, your three films, because I guess

if I was so thinking about your trust immediately in your audiences, because so often you

start a movie and you let us wait before the lead

character Ashley speaks.

You're right.

Yes.

I think just because I make films of places that don't usually get a cinematic treatment.

So it's always nice to ease people in, give them a moment, and just step into the space

and set the expectation of the film, the pacing of the film. Not a bad thing.

Well, I guess I've heard myself thinking, too, having talked to you a little bit,

that I think you tend to create characters and elites who are kind of like you, they're

observers.

So we're taking the world and the way that they are.

So you're introducing us to their point of view and letting us know they're going to be watching the world as much as they'll be participating in it.

I think we don't listen enough these days.

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