Welcome to the psychology podcast where we give you insights into the mind, brain, behavior, and creativity.

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman,

and in each episode I have a conversation with a guest

he will stimulate your mind and give you a greater understanding

of yourself, others, and the world we live in.

Hopefully we'll also provide a glimpse into human possibility.

Thanks for listening and on the podcast. After spending a year as

a Bartley Fellow at the Wall Street Journal, Valjorie developed the theory of

enchantment in an innovative framework for social emotional learning, character

development, and interpersonal growth that uses pop culture as an educational

tool in the classroom and beyond.

Chloe has trained around the world including in South Africa, the Netherlands, Germany, and

Israel.

Her clients have included high school and college students, government agencies, business teams, and many more.

She has also lectured in universities across America, including Harvard and Georgetown.

Her work has been covered in Psychology Today magazine, and her writings have appeared in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.

Coley so so glad to finally chat with you.

Likewise. Well where do we even begin? There's so many so many potential starting points but if it's cool

with you I'd love to start with your theory of enchantment I'm enchanted with it as a I know

I'm so courty but anyway I am enchanted with it because I you know I have a deep interest in education and

Making sure that no kids fall between the cracks and I just love to hear how your program addresses some of those issues and

just you know what inspires you most about that work that you do.

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