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13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast

Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus

13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast

Ana Szabo, Nick Adams, Amy Nichols and Lacey Gee

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4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Who are Chloe, Sam, Sophia, and Marcus, that Taylor is name-dropping in this song? Are the real people in her life or is she once again taking us into her imagination? 


Throughout THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT, Taylor explores the deepest anxieties of her mind through imagined situations. Nick, Lacey, Amy, and Ana discuss the lyrics, callbacks, similarities, and recurring themes of this song and the album as a whole. 


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Yay, media group.

0:37.1

13 has been my lucky number for a while.

0:39.3

Like, it's always a sign of good things to come for me.

0:42.3

This is 13, a Taylor Swift fan podcast, breaking down every song, every Easter egg, every era, and every theory.

0:52.2

Hosted by the biggest Swifties, Nickams anna zabo amy nicoe amy nicoes and lacy g welcome to

1:00.4

thirteen a taylor swift fan podcast my name's nick adams i'm anna amy and i'm lacy g and today we are breaking

1:07.8

down track number 20 of 31 we still have a long ways to down track number 20 of 31. We still have a long ways to go. Track number 20 is Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus. Nailed it. Written by Taylor Swift and Aaron Desner. It is a mouthful of a song title. Chloe and Friends. Chloe and Friends. I like to call it Chloe and Friends. I've seen some people online call it Chloe et Friends, like E.T. Like in French for some reason. Chloe Ed Friends. I'm excited because Sophia is my middle name. So I feel like I finally, it's no thank you, Amy. Right. But I feel like it's finally somewhere in the Taylor Cinematic Universe. You made it. A name drop. Sure, I spell it with an F, but in the Taylor Cinematic Universe. You made it.

1:44.4

A name drop.

1:45.4

Sure, I spell it with an F, but in this case, I will spell it with a pH.

1:51.0

And maybe a little known fact for our listeners.

1:54.4

For a lot of your life, you went by Sophia.

1:57.9

Yes.

1:58.4

Correct?

1:58.7

Yes, I actually still do.

2:00.0

I go by Sophie to my family and close family friends because my mom's name is Anna.

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