I'm Dr. Brett Kasbaum and I was looking to learn more about business, scaling, sailing,

closing, potentially franchising, growing that business and actually working on it and not as much in it.

But Clay Clark, man, he is one character.

That's a good word for him, character.

Yeah, that is it. He's a good word for him character yeah that is it good driven smart and uh i've never a guy who was so hyper all the time he's doing so much good and then and then his mother and she just

says she just lets him be clay clark i mean so you know he's endorsed by his mother, and she just says, she just lets him be Clay Clark.

I mean, so he's endorsed by his mother.

And he's doing magnificent work.

So I was a great meeting you out there and all the people that he surrounds himself with.

Clay Clark starts his days at five o'clock in the morning.

Oh, it's incredible.

Yeah, he's like, he's he's, he's a machine.

He's a machine.

But his, you know, I have problems with my company starting at 9 o'clock.

Yes, hundreds of people showing up at 5 a.m. in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Man, he's a leader of a leader. He's fantastic, you

man. Oh, he is. He is. And it's, so it's, you know, for the folks that aren't familiar

with you and by a few and far between, I first came across you, gosh, probably 15 years ago or

maybe even 20. Clay Clark is here somewhere. Where's my buddy Clay? Yeah, my Clark!

Clay is the greatest.

I met his goats today.

I met his dogs.

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