I think if you're a founder, it's part of your personality or part of your DNA.

The geek in me looked at restaurants and went, this is essentially a manufacturing plant.

I think the small-mindedness around, you know, restaurants and went, this is essentially a manufacturing plant.

I think the small-mindedness around, you know, sort of trade barriers and the political

system is dangerous.

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Hello and welcome to the UKTN podcast,

a weekly conversation with founders of some of the UK's high-growth tech companies.

Each episode, we will talk through the founder's personal journey,

their vision for their business and their views of the wider tech industry.

I'm Jane Wakefield and I've been a tech journalist for more than two decades.

And joining me today is Barney Rag, the CEO and co-founder of Karakuri.

Hello, Barney.

Thank you so much for joining me today.

And I'm going to start off by asking you that question, which some people find annoying.

But I think it is true that if you become a founder, you do go on a journey.

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