They say that life gets greater later.

There's so much joy, so much wisdom, and so much beauty that comes later in life.

And my guest today is on a mission to share this perspective.

Chip Connolly is a best-selling author and co-founder of the Modern Elder Academy.

It's the world's first midlife wisdom school.

After an impressive career in hospitality,

first is a founder of Joa deieve Hospitality, and then as AirB&B's head of global

hospitality and strategy, Chip is now leading a worldwide revolution to reframe midlife. In his latest book, Learning to Love Midlife,

12 reasons why life gets better with age, Chip is changing the narrative around midlife, helping people navigate this often misunderstood life stage with a renewed sense of purpose and possibility.

He's urging all of us to make aging aspirational and to embrace the transformative opportunity

that Midlife presents us with.

This conversation will totally shift your perspective and inspire you to find joy, purpose, and success in the years that lie ahead to make these years are best ones yet.

I'm Hoda Kauti. Welcome to my podcast Making Space.

Okay, Chip, I'm going to start off by saying I loved you before I met you. I was so eager to meet you and just to tell people a little bit about our history.

I had heard about you through multiple friends.

All roads led to Chip Conley.

Literally, I went to a friend,

friend of mine, Joanne.

Have you heard about this Chip Conley?

I went to this other person, Maria Shriver.

You heard about Chip Conley?

I'm like, who's this Chip Connolly?

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