4.4 • 785 Ratings
🗓️ 18 April 2022
⏱️ 42 minutes
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‘What workers get through unionisation is really about what the state wants to give them, if their goals align with the state’s at any given time in terms of pressuring these companies. This is especially thrown into clear relief when we see how the state treats workers who try to organise outside of this apparatus’
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0:30.2 | Hello and welcome to Chinese Whispers with me, Cindy Yu. Every episode I'll be talking to journalists, |
0:37.8 | experts and long-time China watchers about the latest in Chinese politics, society and more. |
0:43.3 | There'll be a smattering of history to catch you up on the background knowledge and some context |
0:47.7 | as well. How do the Chinese see these issues? |
0:52.1 | Just as delivery and Uber have become an integral part of many people's lives in the West, |
0:57.0 | the gig economy has taken off in China too, where two-thirds of the population live in cities. |
1:03.0 | There, the gig economy offers services beyond just cheap rides and fast takeaways, |
1:08.0 | and symbolise a vibrant market economy with cosmopolitan consumers. |
1:12.6 | But this comes at a human cost. |
1:14.6 | China is not known for its mature workers' rights, and with the industry driven by private sector tech firms like Alibaba, |
1:21.6 | in many ways gig economy workers are the new sweatshop workers of the country. |
1:25.6 | Meanwhile, unionisation is difficult when central |
1:29.2 | government treats any non-state-directed effort as suspicious. The pandemic has highlighted more than ever |
1:35.8 | the plight and opportunities of gig economy workers, as China's lockdown populations rely on |
1:42.0 | deliveries for, in some cases as in Shanghai, their very survival. |
1:46.9 | Joining me to discuss all this is Violo Rothschild, a PhD candidate at Duke University, |
1:52.4 | whose research has focused on the gig economy in China, which is still an understudy phenomenon by journalists and academics. |
1:59.7 | I've actually known Violo for years. We did our |
2:02.0 | master's in contemporary Chinese studies together. Viola is so nice to have you on Chinese Whispers. |
2:07.4 | Welcome. First of all, I wondered if you can start by just giving an overview of the gig economy |
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