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American Prestige

Chinese Prestige: The Making of the PRC w/ Yidi Wu

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, Politics, News

4.8705 Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Instead of a news roundup, we are releasing the second episode of our new miniseries ⁠Chinese Prestige⁠. Annual subscribers already have access, while everyone else can get the 8 episodes for $5 for two weeks only. This conversation examines China’s early post-Korean War period and the political and social campaigns that defined the new PRC. The group discusses land reform, the Three-anti and Five-anti campaigns, Soviet-style economic planning centered on heavy industry, and the technocratic overhaul of higher education. They also explore China’s deteriorating relationship with the United States, shifting ties with the Soviet Union after Stalin’s death, early signs of the Sino-Soviet split, and Mao’s tightening control. Theme music by Jake Aron, based on the song “The East is Red.”

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to American Prestige.

0:02.7

To listen ad-free, you can subscribe at AmericanPestigepod.com.

0:08.3

Find the link in our show notes. Hello, Hello, Prestige heads, and welcome to American Prestige.

0:41.7

I'm Danny Bessner, here as always with my friends and comrade Derek Davison.

0:46.1

And we're very excited to welcome back to the podcast today, Yidi Wu, to continue our series on China.

0:52.4

Yidi is an assistant professor at Alon University or Elon University.

0:57.1

I don't know how precisely to say it. Not only that, she's the O'Brien's developing professor

1:04.3

as well. So Yidi, thank you so much for joining us.

1:07.0

Thank you for having me again. It's been a minute. It announced Elon, same as Elon Musk, but no relation between the two.

1:14.2

Oh, not yet. Maybe he'll buy it, and he'll just have Elon University. One can dream.

1:19.0

The real Elon University is his Twitter feed. You can learn so much from just reading his tweets.

1:30.8

So before we begin, though, we go into our main conversation, which is going to take up the history of China in the years after the Korean War. Yidi wanted

1:35.9

to clarify some issues that we talked about last time. So the first one would be on the relationship

1:40.6

between Nazi Germany and Chinese nationalists between the years 1933 to

1:44.5

1941. So Yidi, please. Yes, I like to go back to that point because both of you seem a little

1:50.0

surprised about that fact. And so I dig a little bit. I just want to make sure to clarify,

1:55.2

the relationship between the Nazi Germany and the Chinese Nationalist Party lasted from

2:00.3

1933 to 1941. and the Chinese Nationalist Party lasted from 1933 to 1941.

2:03.5

And the Chinese received both military and economic support to consolidate power over those

2:10.4

regional warlords and to resist Japanese imperialism.

2:14.1

But Germany officially cut off that relationship by 1941 and then re-aligned themselves

2:20.5

with Japan and to recognize the Japanese-controlled Wang Jingwei regime rather than continuing

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