This live episode of The Cynical Podcast was recorded at the Asia Society in New York on February 5th, in partnership with our good friends at ChinaFile.

Check out ChinaFile for outstanding reporting, York, in conversation tonight with Mara Fistendahl.

Hello, New York.

Woo-hoo!

All right. The Cynica podcast is a weekly discussion of current affairs in China produced in partnership with SubChina.

SubChina is the best way to keep on top of all the latest news from China, especially by subscribing to SubChina access with its daily email newsletter. It is a feast of business, political, and cultural

news about a nation that is reshaping the world. I am Kaiser Guo, and today I am thrilled to be

joined by Mara Hifstahl for the launch of her fantastic, timely, important book, The Scientist, and the

spy. Mara is a prolific writer covering lots of topics in science and technology.

She's written for many, many major publications.

She is also the author of Unnatural Selection, which was a Pulitzer Prize finalist and of,

and the city swallowed them, a wonderfully noirish novelesque work of nonfiction crime,

which we talked about on Seneca together

back when she was still living and reporting in China. She and her family now make their home

in Minneapolis, and Mara continues to do fantastically good reporting on China-related topics,

especially on the underreported, undercover area of science. So read her stuff.

Mara,

congratulations,

first of all,

on the book,

which I just loved,

I mean,

...