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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

China’s Zero-COVID Policy

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

When China first instituted its zero-COVID policy, it was a success: as other countries struggled with soaring infection rates and overburdened hospitals, life for many Chinese citizens began to look normal again within months—so long as they weren’t infected. But the omicron variant changed the game. Now, people are speaking out against draconian lockdown measures they say are inappropriate to face the current level of threat. How did zero-COVID evolve from being the most effective virus prevention strategy in the world to a disproportionate and punitive system? And how has that evolution expanded state control? Guest: Dake Kang, journalist in the Beijing bureau of the Associated Press. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sam Mendes presents Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens, an audible original drama.

0:05.6

The young gentleman's name would be...

0:08.3

Oliver, Oliver Twist.

0:10.7

...with Brian Cox as Fagan.

0:12.9

What have you seen? Street boy.

0:14.9

Nicola Cochlan as Nancy and Daniel Caluia as Bill Sykes.

0:19.3

Oh, look at me like a hello to my lawyer.

0:21.3

I love you, baby.

0:22.3

...with original music by Dan Gillespie Cells.

0:25.7

Subscription required, see audible.co.uk for terms.

0:37.0

If you were to walk me down the streets of Shanghai right now,

0:40.0

what would it be like?

0:41.4

It sounds like you have friends there.

0:42.8

I have quite a few friends there, I think.

0:45.0

Deit Kang reports on China for the Associated Press.

0:48.1

I think if you walk down the streets of Shanghai, it would be very quiet.

0:56.0

For most of the pandemic, some people feel Shanghai kind of had this attitude of,

1:00.3

oh, look at the rest of China.

1:02.7

They have such crude COVID controls, but we don't have to deal with that kind of stuff.

1:07.5

Huh.

1:08.4

Not anymore.

1:09.7

Obviously.

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