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Sinica Podcast

China's Venezuelan vicissitudes

Sinica Podcast

Kaiser Kuo

Culture, China News, Hangzhou, Chinese, International Relations, Chongqing, Beijing, Sichuan, Currentaffairs, China, Politics, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, China Economy, News, China Politics, Business, Film, Shenzhen

4.8676 Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2020

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

In a show taped on March 2, before the full force of COVID-19 had hit the U.S., Kaiser and Jeremy chatted with Parsifal D'Sola Alvarado about China's strategy in the resource-rich but economically devastated Venezuela. Parsifal is a co-founder of the Andrés Bello China-Latin America Research Foundation and a foreign policy adviser to Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaidó.

2:47: China-Venezuela relations before Hugo Chávez

11:29: Popular attitudes toward China under Chávez

30:27: Between Maduro and Guaidó, China is hedging its bets

40:40: Documenting Chinese interaction in Venezuela 

45:02: Do policymakers understand China’s involvement in South America

Recommendations:

Jeremy: A list of healthcare and medical professionals on Twitter, dubbed “COVID-19 medical Twitter” by Jeremy. 

Parsifal: A book in Spanish by Francisco Suniaga, El pasajero de Truman, and The Man Who Loved China: The Fantastic Story of the Eccentric Scientist Who Unlocked the Mysteries of the Middle Kingdom, by Simon Winchester. 

Kaiser: Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland, by Patrick Radden Keefe.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the cynical podcast, a weekly discussion of current affairs in China, produced in partnership with SubChina.

0:14.7

SubChina is simply the best way there is to keep on top of all the important news coming out of China

0:18.5

with our indispensable daily newsletter, website, and growing range of podcasts and videos. I'm Kaiser Guo, coming to you today from the

0:26.2

Cineka South Studio in downtown Durham, North Carolina, joining me from stately Goldcorn Manor in the

0:31.8

genteel outskirts of Nashville, Tennessee, is a man who was so unable to control his excitement

0:37.2

in casting his first ever presidential

0:39.0

primary ballot that he had to wear adult diapers to the polls, Mr. Jeremy Goldcorn.

0:46.7

Jeremy, so did you vote early, man?

0:50.2

Yeah, I voted on, I think the first day was possible.

0:53.1

All right. See, you couldn't continue to sit there.

0:55.2

I'm an immigrant.

0:55.9

I'm somebody who hasn't had a lot of democracy in my life, so I'm trying to make up for it.

1:01.6

Sadly, I arrive in this country to this state, but what can one do?

1:06.8

You guys vote Super Tuesday like us, right?

1:09.4

Yeah.

1:10.1

All right, all right.

1:11.4

I will not inquire as to who you voted for the Democratic race, but I can tell you that I threw mine away because my candidate is already out of the race.

1:20.6

Oh, well, dang it.

1:22.5

Anyway, enough for that.

1:25.2

Beijing's relationship with Venezuela has been fascinating to watch, especially in recent years, as China has looked with conflicting emotions at this resource-rich but economically devastated country and has tried to anticipate Venezuela's political future. For Beijing, Venezuela went from the largest recipient of Chinese loans in the whole world to a basket

1:45.7

case that was really fraught with all sorts of political risk.

1:48.8

Now, I suspect that I am not the only person interested in China who is guilty of not

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