Hello everybody, welcome back to Rev Left Radio.

All right, on today's episode, we have on the show, Ashwin Shantha from the Journal of International

Solidarity, as well as the host of the International Solidarity podcast, a show that I've

been on before.

I've collaborated with Ashwin before,

and I'm having them on today to discuss their latest article put out by the Journal of

International Solidarity, titled China's Green Development is both anti-imperialist and socialist.

In this essay that we're going to discuss, he talks about China's green revolution,

their development of renewable technologies, their energy and technology, sovereignty, the details

of their ability to subordinate capital to the interests of the state and the long-term planning

of the Communist Party, and so much more it's it's a

really fascinating discussion on how china in particular is leading the world really in

renewable green technologies the material reasons for it the relationship of china with the rest

of the global south we discussed discussed the war in Iran and the

implications not only for China, but for the global south, for the end of Western imperial

dominance more broadly, and just a wide-ranging, fascinating conversation that I'm really

excited to share with you today. All right, without further ado, here is my conversation with Ashwin, China's green development,

and an argument for it being anti-imperialist and socialist.

Enjoy. I'm... I'm Ashwin.

I wrote this essay, China's green development is both anti-imperialist and socialist.

As part of my ongoing research as a doctoral student, I studied the political economy of development in the

global south, looking particularly at China and South Asia. My background is, you know, I'm Indian,

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