As a long time foreign correspondent, I've worked in lots of places, but nowhere is important

to the world as China.

I'm Jane Perlaz, former Beijing Bureau Chief for the New York Times.

Join me on my new podcast, Face Off, US versus China,

where I'll take you behind the scenes in the tumultuous US-China relationship.

Find face-off wherever you get your podcasts. You're going to be. What's going on everyone? Welcome to another episode of Bro history at Henry Zamoda and

Danny Adelgebar on today's episode we're joined by guest Joseph Salice Mullen. I've pronounced that right. I know I just

asked you but I'm horrible with pronouncing names I mispronounced Danny's

name all the time and we've been podcasting for three years. You got it. All right perfect who's a political scientist and

Joseph you've written some really great stuff and you know I've I've learned a lot

about China from you you. You wrote this fantastic article on meisis.org called

China won't be taking over the world which we're going to be talking about among other things.

But I just want to lead this off by just giving you my initial take on China,

like my very high level taken, you can just kind of take the ball from there and

tell me if you agree or disagree or you know whatever needs further explanation

but in the words of the late Justin Raimondo, I believe China is a paper tiger.

However, the narrative out there is, China is on the verge of world domination.

And frankly, I just don't think that's true.

I think that they have a lot of problems

that prevent them from, quote unquote,

dominating the rest of the world.

Not to say that they aren't a totalitarian government.

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