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The Dispatch Podcast

China and the Uighur Genocide

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2021

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In a call with European foreign ministers on Thursday, Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken said he would begin steps to restore the 2015 Iran nuclear deal that was abandoned by the Trump administration. Today’s guest, Tom Josclelyn, thinks a series of upfront concessions to Tehran before the country’s leaders even come to the negotiating table would be an unwise foreign policy move for the Biden administration. “I’ve taken to calling it ‘servile diplomacy’ because it is very much from a submissive position,”Joscelyn tells Sarah and Steve. Tune in to hear our hosts’ take on China’s ongoing genocide against the Uighurs in Xinjiang, and the latest rocket attack on a U.S. airbase in Iraq. Show Notes: -“Biden Administration Formally Offers to Restart Nuclear Talks With Iran” by Lara Jakes, Michael Crowley, David E. Sanger and Farnaz Fassihi in the New York Times. -“Biden dismisses Uighur genocide as part of China’s ‘different norms’” by Emily Jacobs in the New York Post. -“‘Genocide’ is the wrong word for the horrors of Xinjiang” by the Economist. -Tom Joscelyn’s Vital Interests newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the Dispatch podcast.

0:02.3

I'm your host Sarah Isger joined by Steve Hayes.

0:05.7

Today we are dipping back into the world of foreign policy.

0:09.1

We have Tom Jocelyn joining us.

0:10.7

He's a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

0:14.3

He is also a senior editor at Longboard Journal.

0:18.4

And perhaps most importantly,

0:19.8

he is the author of the Vital Interest newsletter at the Dispatch,

0:25.3

which you can sign up for at thedispatch.com.

0:28.5

Check on the Vital Interest box and you can get it in your inbox.

0:32.0

Today we are going to talk about Iran and the nuclear deal in the Biden administration.

0:37.8

We're going to move to China, the Uighurs, and the definition of genocide.

0:42.0

We'll talk about the rocket attack in Iraq earlier this week.

0:47.4

And we'll wrap with a little conversation that turns to knee injuries.

1:00.4

Let's stay then.

1:07.6

Tom, so great to have you back.

1:10.0

I want to start with Iran last night, the New York Times reported that the Biden administration

1:17.3

has formally offered to restart nuclear talks with Iran.

1:21.6

Though it's unclear if Tehran is interested in restarting the talks until sanctions are

1:26.6

lifted.

1:28.1

How big of news is this?

1:30.2

Do you think that Tehran will accept the offer?

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