China & America's Economic War with Matthew Pines - WBD602
The Peter McCormack Show
Peter McCormack
4.7 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 7 January 2023
⏱️ 131 minutes
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Summary
Matthew Pines is a Managing Consultant at the Krebs Stamos Group and a Fellow at the Bitcoin Policy Institute specializing in national security. In this interview, we discuss the rapidly changing geopolitical order as China competes with the US for dominance, and how Bitcoin may become one of a number of alternative global reserve assets to US debt.
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There are moments when the world pivots when events change the course of world affairs. The Russian invasion of Ukraine was one such event. More to the point, it was the western sanctions imposed on Russia that will come to be seen as a paradigm shift. It was when the world went from working in an open Eurodollar system to a closed system involving alternative forms of money.
In the face of increasingly fraught geopolitics and a loss of faith in the US dollar, certain countries are seeking to diversify the reserve assets they hold. This will create problems for the USD-UST system, at the same time the US is facing significant headwinds: dealing with huge structural debt, 'reshoring, restocking and rewiring', and countering China's rise.
What was once a theory is now turning into reality: China is on the cusp of being able to compete with the US, principally within the Asian geopolitical sphere. To this end, China has a strategic imperative to secure reliable commodity and energy sources, and will likely move towards a proto-petroyuan system, and coerce other countries and entities to follow.
In this context, Bitcoin is emerging as a viable alternative to fiat currencies and gold as a global reserve asset. It is a unique form of money: a digital commodity with global fungibility, limited counterparty risk, and large liquidity. But critically it is a politically neutral asset, an increasingly attractive attribute for countries seeking to hedge their exposure to increasing geopolitical risk.
In the US, the rise of Bitcoin companies, along with the Biden administration's Executive Order on Digital Assets and positive statements by officials, suggests the US could accept Bitcoin's gradual adoption and monetization. From a national security perspective, key decision-makers may realize that allowing Bitcoin to serve as a new global reserve would disproportionately benefit the US.
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| 0:00.0 | It's not being looked at properly as a realistic scenario. |
| 0:04.4 | Say by 2030, you could have several countries that have |
| 0:07.4 | meaningful holdings of Bitcoin as part of this |
| 0:12.1 | geoechnomic arrangement, and this is like a way for them to hedge |
| 0:15.3 | Hello there from a Nashville in Tennessee. How are you all doing? You're having a good week |
| 0:20.1 | Me and Danny out here making a bunch of shows, but that's a really great guess, really looking forward to getting these shows out to you. |
| 0:25.5 | Anyway, welcome to the What Bitcoin did podcast, which is brought to you by Gemini, the only place I'm using for buying Bitcoin. |
| 0:31.5 | I'm your host, Peter McCormackack and today on the show I've got |
| 0:33.8 | Matthew Pines back. Now this one is a bit of a monster. We went for over two hours |
| 0:39.4 | discussing the economic war between China and the USA. Now Matthew wrote a brilliant article |
| 0:46.0 | the future geopolitical order and Bitcoin an initial assessment and once we'd |
| 0:50.8 | read this we knew we had to get him on the show and discuss it. |
| 0:53.7 | Now he's an incredibly knowledgeable person. |
| 0:55.9 | This show could have been so much longer and I'm definitely going to get him back because there's a whole bunch of other things. |
| 1:00.2 | We didn't even have time to get into. |
| 1:01.8 | Now if you want to get in touch |
| 1:02.8 | you got any questions about this please do reach out to me my email addresses hello |
| 1:06.0 | at what Bitcoin did.com. Matthew good see you again. |
| 1:12.8 | Thanks, have me. |
| 1:13.8 | Any time. |
| 1:14.8 | Okay, we're going to get some deep topics here today. |
| 1:18.8 | I know you've been on the show before, but if people are listening now and they haven't listened |
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