We will hear argument first this morning in case 24-539, Childs v. Salazar.

Hey, everyone. This is Leon from Prologue Projects. On this week's episode of 5 to 4, Peter, Riannon, and Michael are talking about Charles v. Salazar, a case that was decided just a few weeks ago in a ruling that challenges Colorado's

2019 law banning therapists from trying to talk gay, trans, and queer minors into becoming straight.

As you'll hear, a case was brought by a therapist who had teamed up with a right-wing nonprofit

to argue that the Colorado ban on conversion therapy infringed on her First Amendment rights.

The central question in the case was whether or not a state can regulate a speech of a talk therapist.

And in an 8-1 decision, the court ruled that the issue required so-called strict scrutiny,

which means the case now goes back down to the lower court for an intensive review that presumes the law in

question is unconstitutional and will likely lead to it being struck down. This is 5 to 4, a podcast

about how much the Supreme Court sucks. Welcome to 5 to 4, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have sent our civil rights to the far side of the moon like the Artemis spacecraft.

I'm Peter. I'm here with Riannon. Hey, everybody. And Michael. I love space shit. I do. I eat that up. I think it's so cool.

That's cool. And I guess it's the Artemis 2. You're a stickler.

Yes, the Artemis, too. We tried to grab onto the one bit of good news that has happened all year for the metaphor this week.

It's been cool. I watched a new segment about how they can't get farts out of the space shuttle.

There's no way.

You can like, they can do like scrubbing technology, but like inevitably space shuttles all become

filled with farts.

And they smell like farts, yeah.

Yeah.

And so they just, it's just like a, just a big farty little spaceship.

We can go to the far side of the moon, but we can't get parts out of the spaceship. Yeah. That's correct. I mean, that, well, that just like ruins. You know, as a kid, I wanted to be an astronaut. You're like, no, not so much. Well, you have to, the key is to be the one with the worst farts. You're telling me. That way it's like kind of funny, right? That way it's something you're doing to everyone else. Right. That way you're bullying people. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So, you assert your dominance in the, in the, yeah. I want it to be one of those things where like the president is interviewing you, right?

And he's like, how's it going?

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