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Woman's Hour

Children and happiness, Miscarriage leave, Extramarital pairings

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Women in Northern Ireland who have had a miscarriage - along with their partners - will now be entitled to two weeks paid leave. The government is planning to bring in at least one week of leave for families in England, Scotland and Wales next year. Nuala McGovern is joined by Niamh Campbell, Reporter for the Belfast Telegraph and Erin Sharkey who is a volunteer with the Miscarriage Association in Northern Ireland.

Last August, 250 harvest mice were released into a nature reserve in Devon to replenish the natural stocks of this little animal that is under-threat. The project wasn’t conceived by a big conservation group or local wildlife centre – in fact it barely involved adults at all. It was the dedication of two 13-year-old naturalists, Eva Wishart and Emily Smith, who bred the mice at home in empty fish tanks, using plants from their garden, and a custom-built release enclosure. We hear from them and we have an update on the success of their project. Do you think that having kids makes you happy? A new study from the University of Nicosia in Cyprus suggests not. It drew on data from more than 5,000 participants in ten countries, including the UK, and concluded that there is no strong evidence that parenthood leads to a measurable increase in positive emotions. To discuss the findings and weigh up their own experiences, we hear from two mothers of two - Ella Whelan author of ‘What Women Want,’ and Iko Haruna, a family photographer and former presenter of ParentLand, the BBC World Service’s podcast.

Thousands of rapes are reported every year across the UK in fact, and the numbers continue to rise. ‘Sophie’ was raped by a man pretending to be a taxi driver after a night out in Glasgow in 2022. She decided she wanted to talk publicly about her experience and approached BBC Scotland newsreader Laura Miller, presenter of Scotcast, who tells us more of Sophie's story.

What if people who have affairs were sent off, in their extramarital pairings, to an unknown city to spend time together? All the while their 'real' lives were put on pause and waited for them to come back. How long would the paradise last for? This is the premise of a new book, Permanence by Sophie Mackintosh. Sophie joins Nuala to discuss it.

Presenter: Nuala McGovern Producer: Kirsty Starkey

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0:00.0

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0:13.5

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0:17.2

They often say, look, we built the nation.

0:19.2

And without us, South Korea as it exists today,

0:22.6

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0:28.3

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0:34.1

Hello, this is Neula McGovern, and you're listening to The Woman's Hour podcast.

0:38.9

Hello and welcome to the program. Good to be back with you. Well, a question to get us started today.

0:44.9

Are people with children happier than those without? A study published in evolutionary psychology says, apparently not.

0:52.8

We'll get into it with two mothers this hour.

0:55.0

But I'd also like to hear from you, whether you do or don't have children, whether that's by choice or circumstance.

1:01.8

Do kids or lack of them factor into your happiness?

1:05.6

Was that perhaps more pronounced at certain points in your life?

1:09.0

Maybe the time of a new baby or the teenage years, for example, for those that have had them,

1:14.6

or maybe freedom in your 40s for those without.

1:17.6

Do you think happiness just ebbs and flows for everyone?

1:20.6

Well, you can text the program, the number is 84844 on social media.

1:25.6

We're at BBC Woman's Hour, or you can email us through our website for a WhatsApp message or a voice note.

1:31.0

That number is 0-3700-100-400-444. Another finding from the study. It found that parents reported slightly lower levels of satisfaction in their relationships compared to the non-parents.

1:45.9

But speaking of partners, we're going to travel this hour to an alternative universe with the author Sophie McIntosh.

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