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All In The Mind

Childhood attachment, animal rights and the 'pit of despair': Harry Harlow's unethical experiments

All In The Mind

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Life Sciences, Health & Fitness, Science

4.4785 Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2022

⏱️ 29 minutes

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0:00.0

This is an ABC podcast.

0:08.2

One of the best bits of having a baby for me has been all of the glorious cuddles.

0:16.5

Oh my gosh, it's heaven.

0:19.3

And for the first eight months of my son's life, he would only nap in the

0:23.8

carrier, hanging off either myself or my husband, his sweet little head resting on our chest,

0:30.4

which was lovely, but also a nightmare, depending on the day you asked us. But I digress,

0:35.5

the point is, we were trying to provide our baby

0:38.4

with a sense of safety and love

0:40.0

and we were responding to his needs.

0:42.7

But a hundred years ago,

0:44.2

we would have been told

0:45.3

we were terrible parents for doing this,

0:47.7

that we were ruining him,

0:50.0

destroying his future.

0:53.7

And when you go back into the psychology books of the early 20th century,

0:59.0

you find that the word loved actually is not in them.

1:01.0

If you go into the index there,

1:03.0

the term they use for the relationship between mother and child is proximity.

1:08.0

Deborah Bloom is a Pulitzer Prize-winning science writer and director of the Knight Science

1:13.5

Journalism Program at MIT in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

1:18.1

And the way they define the relationship is a series of drive reduction formulas.

1:22.9

The child has a drive to eat.

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