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Welcome to the Ringer NFL show on the Ringer podcast network. I'm Robert Mays, joined as always

by Kevin Clark. Kevin, how are you doing buddy? Very good, alarmed at how human you sound when

talking to your dog. That's probably fair. I wanted to have her in here because she's been so good

today. I didn't want to put her in the crate because she would be confused, but then she was just

annoying on the phone. And I was like, yeah, that's probably not going to be good for podcast audio.

So never know. Yeah, it's just one of those things. This is a, this is a gentle time. So

all right, we're going to do something. We, this is a new kind of show form at this year. So the

first segment we were going to do kind of highlights and everything headlines, excuse me.

And sometimes there's aren't, isn't that much news? You know, we've seen it over the

last course of the week. Or sometimes, sometimes just continuation of news that we talked about

before times. So when we don't feel like there's something newsworthy to necessarily discuss in

this segment, we're going to do something that's more of a big picture look kind of a, you know,

bird's eye view of the league and some stuff that we feel like is we're talking about on a broader

level. So what we're going to do with the segment today is we're going to talk about the teams that

no one's really talking about right now, but they will be in three weeks because they're kind of

lurking. One of these teams shouldn't be lurking because their record is actually very good. But I

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