Now it's time for the last word where Ali Valshi is in for Lawrence tonight. Good evening,

Ali. I'm sorry. I've taken 30 of your time anytime I'm here. You know, I love Timothy Snyder

because he takes tyranny out of the abstract, right? He makes it really real. But your interviews

with him are even better. You get the best out of him. He said something and I stopped just to

write it down. When you said some of these

protests are not big and he said, when strange things happen and nobody reacts, that it normalizes

it. So even if it's small, even if one or two people react, that other people see it and that

you cover it the way you've been covering it makes people think maybe I

have a voice maybe I've got agency maybe I should join maybe I should be part of this it also you know

it's persuasion it's it's persuasion right I mean demonstration is is moral suasion you were appealing

to the conscience of anybody who sees you and it may be that the clever or witty or incisive thing that you put on your sign

changes somebody somewhere when they see it.

And that resonance matters and people speaking up matters.

And he said what it does is also draw those elected politicians, those people in politics

who are courageous and charismatic.

It draws them into the conversation.

So there's value in it.

If people are sitting there saying,

I don't know, this is out of control,

I don't understand it,

and I don't know what I'm supposed to do,

demonstrating as you do every night,

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