All right, John. Tell us everybody where we are at today.

So where we're at is at Bill Maleneves house.

And Western Springs here.

This is the famous author of the Octoberfest, Greek Octoberfest column and he loves Octoberfest his father was a pilot and in

the Air Force or not he was a boom operator in the Air Force. Boom operator.

So anyway, we're here at Bill's house and he's the photographer.

What's the name of the...

MVP studio?

And he's also the brother of a popular or an app.

The famous. The famous. The famous woodsman,

outdoor men, president of the Chicago Land Anglers Club,

prestigious, big downtown Pashy.

His name is Steve the Pilot.

Steve the Pilot, who is the one who always I assume listens on his headphones and

clammers and clangs and gets upset about the squeaky chair the third act of

our podcast here. Steve doesn't like my squeaky chair and a few others don't but like I

tell Steve and I'll tell you you don't like the chair two F bad. I'm not going to put

W.D. 40 in my house and have like a bunch of a

drips on the floor on the sumptuous wood floors that the tripping

remember the sumptuous wood floors at the tribute.

Yeah, well, and I hear's a little behind the scenes too for me.

Whenever you hear listening to John and the podcast,

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