As we turn toward the political conventions, as the campaign for president builds up as Democrats and Republicans grab for the tomahawks, hating each other, there's one man we want to sit down and talk to. He offers wisdom and clarity.

His name is Charles Lipson, Professor Emeritus, at the University of Chicago, the Ritzman chair, prolific writer, writer of books, writer of articles, and just go to write this down so you can go to it whenever you want.

Charles Lipson.com.

Charles Lipson is joining Jeff Carlin

from WGM radio, executive producer there,

and me John Cass, editor-in-chief of John Cass News.com.

And where are you?

As the country grabs for the tomahawks, as the parties begin to clash, as each side says they're virtuous and the other side is evil,

you're on the Chicago Way podcast on WGM Plus. So this is a guy who lives high on the

hog and he has this Tammany Hall style attitude to power and it is it's the Chicago way

absolutely. The Chicago way is a deep cultural phenomenon. It's the Chicago Way.

The Chicago Way.

That's the focus.

In a tower by the river, there lived a man.

There was a man who took a stand, with pen and paper in his hand,

defeating foes in every ward with a pen more mighty than the sword.

No escape from his ink lasso.

In a tower by the river, Castle.

I guess how you get him. He pulls a knife. The river Castle. Castle.

Here's how you get him.

He pulls a knife.

You pull a gun.

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