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I'm Jonathan Cape Heart and welcome to Cape Up.

This week I've got something different for you.

You won't be hearing a straight interview.

Instead, I'd like to tell you the story of a young man I met a few months ago.

In June, I went to the Aspen Ideas Festival.

It's a week-long incubator put on by the Aspen Institute every year.

And people from all over the world, by and large liberals

and very wealthy attend.

There are seminars and talks and symposia

centered around ideas about how to change the world.

And the organizers hope people will leave as

been feeling energized and actually act on changing the world.

This year at the closing session there was a panel featuring three young people from Chicago,

Ariana Williams, Trayvon Bosley, and De Angelo McDade, where they talked about gun violence.

And through the course of the conversation you find out they

and their families have all been victims of gun violence and we're not talking just one time,

we're talking many many times over. The first depth that I

ever experienced was my father at the age of eight. I lost my brother Terrell

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