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Welcome to Invention, a production of IHeart Radio.

Hey, welcome to Invention. My name is Robert Lamb.

And I'm Joe McCormick. Robert, I've got a question for you about childhood.

Hit me.

Did your elementary school have draconian anti-gum policies?

There were definitely anti-gum policies, and I agree with them.

I mean, at the time, I don't think I was a big gum-chewer at the time, so they didn't really impact me all that much.

But ultimately, like, I don't like stepping in gum.

I don't like encountering gum stuck to the bottom of desks or inside death. So I never really had a problem with it.

I think maybe my confused, I mean, I wasn't a huge gum chore as a child, but I do remember thinking about the gum rule, this just doesn't make sense. It's not fair. It was one of my first real, you know, thought processes of rebelling against authority and the rules imposed

by the man because other rules were like, you know, don't hit people, don't steal from people.

Like, they all caused harm to someone.

And I was thinking, what harm does it do when someone chewed gum?

Now I understand the adult perspective.

It's, I think, primarily because it's

like gross and because the gum ends up somewhere it shouldn't. Right. The gum ends up somewhere

it shouldn't be. There's also just, especially if it's bubble gum, I don't know. I still am kind

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