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Chess Grandmaster Hikaru Nakamura on Twitch Streaming and “The Queen's Gambit”

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🗓️ 7 January 2021

⏱️ 49 minutes

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We're in a rare moment where chess is popular in the United States. There are two big factors driving it. One is the smash hit Netflix show "The Queen's Gambit." The other is the rise of Twitch streaming, as gamers play online for thousands of fans. On this episode, we speak with Hikaru Nakamura, a popular chess streamer, about the economics of this new environment for chess.

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So, Tracy Allaway.

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So Tracy, I know that you don't play chess that we've already established but uh was this is the

0:55.5

show Queen's Gambit is that stream in Hong Kong okay so two things first of all

1:00.5

I do play chess I know how to play chess I just don't play it with any

1:04.9

regularity and I don't know like the names of the moves and the openings and all of that in the

1:10.6

same way that you do secondly I did watch Queen's Gambit and I thought it was excellent.

1:16.4

Did you, after watching it, get excited and like want to play chess and go online and have any interest because a lot of people

1:23.9

apparently did. Yeah I heard that so my problem with chess has always been that I'm

1:28.7

just not very good at it and I'm not motivated to get better. So when I watch something like

1:34.0

Queen's Gambit I actually find it demotivating because I think I'll just never be

1:37.8

as good as these people so why bother? But yes I heard that it set off a huge wave of interest in chess over well in the states primarily

1:48.0

Yeah, no it has been pretty wild. I was I mean I've played chess all my life but very off and on like I'll go through these

1:55.1

phases where I'll play a lot and get addicted and then I realize I'm playing too much

1:59.7

and I won't play for two years, let I start playing again.

2:02.5

So I was among the people who, after watching it,

2:06.5

started playing a bunch again.

2:08.7

And now, like what I'm like getting makeup done

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