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The Lawfare Podcast

Chesney and Herr on the Biden Executive Order

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🗓️ 24 May 2021

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary


President Biden has issued an executive order on cybersecurity. Bobby Chesney, one of the founders of Lawfare and a professor at the University of Texas Law School, and Trey Herr of the Atlantic Council, analyzed the significant document in depth for Lawfare, and they joined Benjamin Wittes on Lawfare Live to discuss the order and take questions from a live audience. They talked about what the executive order covers, what it doesn't cover, what it can be expected to do beyond the realm of government contracting, why it left out all matters related to ransomware and what the president needs Congress's help to do.

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0:25.6

no bull and the aftermath.

0:34.0

The private sector vendors with whom you have contracts and are going to have contracts

0:39.0

in the future that are relevant here, we're going to use our procurement power, our contracting

0:44.1

power to be much more careful in what we demand of these outside vendors to try to ensure

0:51.3

that they are giving us more secure products and services and that we can remediate the incidents

0:56.6

that do happen.

0:58.2

And there is Sissa, you should think of Sissa as being in the process of becoming that

1:02.5

centralized cybersecurity shock for the federal civilian executive ranch.

1:06.8

There's been a ton of progress by statute and otherwise over the past several years.

1:12.2

This is a major step forward where they're getting some additional support, some additional

1:15.8

direction, and some additional taskings from the ultimate boss.

1:19.4

I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast May 24th, 2021.

1:27.8

President Biden has issued an executive order on cybersecurity.

1:34.0

It's a significant document with a lot of different components.

1:38.5

Bobby Chesney, one of the founders of LawFair and a professor at the University of Texas

1:44.9

Law School and Trey Her of the Atlantic Council, analyzed it in depth for LawFair and they

1:53.1

joined on Friday a live audience to take questions about the executive order.

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We talked about what the executive order covers, what it doesn't cover, what it can be expected

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