Chernobyl, The Last Czars, and the Pros & Cons of Dramatizing History w/ Philippa Heatherington & Jon Waterlow
The Road to Now
Benjamin Sawyer
4.8 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 7 November 2022
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
The Netflix series The Last Czars and HBO's Chernobyl have (in very different ways) brought Russian & Soviet history to televisions across the world. In this episode, Ben sits down with fellow Russian historians Dr. Philippa Hetherington and Dr. Jonathan Waterlow to discuss their opinions on the two series, what they think they got right, and ways that producers and scholars might benefit most from collaboration on future projects. Philippa, who is a featured scholar in The Last Czars, shares her experience being interviewed, her impression of the show after seeing it, and her work to correct historical errors that viewers identified after release.
This episode is a rebroadcast of RTN #141, which originally aired on Sept. 2, 2019. Tragically, Philippa Heatherington passed away on November 5, 2022 after a long fight with cancer. She was a brilliant scholar, an advocate for those living with cancer, and a genuinely delightful human being. You can learn more about her work at PhilippaHeatherington.com.
This reair was edited by Ben Sawyer.
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| 1:09.7 | I'm Ben Sawyer and this is The Road to Now. |
| 1:13.6 | Today's episode is a conversation about the dramatization of history. |
| 1:18.8 | Sparked by the release of The Last Zars on Netflix and Chernobyl back in 2019. |
| 1:26.0 | It's a conversation I'd been wanting to have for a long time, |
| 1:29.0 | and it kind of became perfect when one of the guests on this episode, |
| 1:33.7 | Philip Aetherington, popped up in that Netflix series |
| 1:37.0 | and sparked me to get in touch with her to have a conversation. |
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