And anytime you're not enjoying work, it's like it's up to you to say,

okay, I'm not enjoying this, how am I going to like re-engage and how am I going to fire, like fire myself up again.

And not everybody has the liberty to just stop working, but you know when you're out of your zone and

you're out of your lane and you have to pay attention to that.

I'm Carly Zaken. I'm Danielle Weisberg. Welcome to Skim from the couch.

This podcast is where we go deep on career advice. I'm Danielle Weisberg. Welcome to Skim from the Couch.

This podcast is where we go deep on career advice

from women who have lived it.

From the good stuff like hiring and growing a team.

To the rough stuff, like negotiating your salary

and giving or getting hard feedback.

We started the skim from a couch,

so what better place to talk it all out

than where it began on a couch? So please welcome Chelsea handler to the couch.

Chelsea is a longtime friend of the skim and actually was one of our earliest investors. Thank you. You might

know her from her stand-up or her seven-year run as the host of the late night talk show, Chelsea

Lately on E, or her Netflix Netflix shows Chelsea does and Chelsea where she's gone deep on

everything from Silicon Valley to Iowasca. Chelsea has done it all and course, you might know her as the author

of five best-selling books, including her latest one.

Life will be the death of me.

And we're recording on the David's release.

Congratulations, Chelsea on that and everything else.

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