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The Rich Roll Podcast

Chef Iliana Regan Is A Boss: Thoughts On Sobriety, Literary Acclaim & Foraging

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Education, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.7 • 13.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2020

⏱️ 134 minutes

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Summary

Meet Iliana Regan. A self-taught chef and author, Iliana has faced and overcome a litany of obstacles from substance abuse to sexual discrimination, ultimately prevailing to experience a special moment right now -- celebrated for both her culinary and literary accomplishments. At 15 Iliana landed her first restaurant gig washing dishes and never looked back. Leaning on the rustic experiences of her Midwestern upbringing (she was making mushroom tea long before Four Sigmatic was a thing), Iliana pioneered a unique locavore style of cooking dubbed 'new gatherer', plied daily at her Chicago restaurant Elizabeth -- notable for its homestead aesthetic, emphasis on foraged foods and deep connection to the natural surroundings. It's an approach that landed her a coveted Michelin star six years in a row. Jeff Gordinier, food and drinks editor for Esquire magazine (and former podcast guest), included Elizabeth on his recent list of the last decade’s 40 most important restaurants. Noma's René Redzepi, arguably the world's greatest chef, counts himself a fan. And David Chang dubs Iliana one of the best chefs he has ever known. This past summer Iliana published Burn The Place. A singular, powerfully expressive debut memoir, her story is raw like that first bite of wild onion, alive with startling imagery, and told with uncommon emotional power. The New York Times describes the book as, “perhaps the definitive Midwestern drunken-lesbian food memoir.” The New Yorker echoes this sentiment, calling it "brutal and luminous"; and “a thrilling, disquieting memoir of addiction and coming of age.” Oh yeah, it's also the first food book to be long-listed for the National Book Award since Julia Child in 1980. Now 10 years sober, Iliana’s passion has made an unlikely turn. Focused not in the predictable direction of building a culinary empire, her sights are instead set on a remote corner of Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. Deep in the Hiawatha National Forest, Iliana, alongside her wife Anna and three dogs, has converted a cabin on 150 acres into Milkweed Inn -- a bed and breakfast where she serves up her trademark 'new gatherer' cuisine to small groups of just 10 people over weekends between May and October. Today Iliana shares her story. It's a deeply personal conversation about her love of food, foraging and the great outdoors. It’s about identity and sexual politics. How a little girl who longed to be a boy navigated childhood growing up gay in an intolerant community. It’s about alcoholism and what comes with it. The usual stuff. Like running away from cops in handcuffs. Having sex in bar bathrooms. And using car keys to bump cocaine. And it's about sobriety. How Iliana ultimately transformed into a phenom of knife and pen. Celebrated for both her literary and culinary talents. And a woman who has made an indelible mark as a pioneer of ‘new gatherer’ cuisine in an industry dominated by men. Final note of gratitude to Jeff Gordinier for introducing me to Iliana. Love you my friend. The visually inclined can watch it all go down on YouTube. And as always, the audio version streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. May you be as delighted by this exchange as I am. Peace + Plants, Rich

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0:00.0

From an early age I had seen a lot of alcoholism in my family.

0:07.6

As a child, even though that could all be really scary, I still was very intrigued by

0:13.0

like what alcohol could do.

0:14.8

Like this thing's very bad, but I definitely wanted.

0:19.0

And so then when I started drinking, my brain was definitely not wired to be like, okay,

0:24.8

you've had enough.

0:25.8

Now you should stop.

0:27.2

That's not what happens to my brain or my body.

0:30.8

It needs as much as possible.

0:33.7

I mean, I think if I had continuously drank throughout my 20s, I probably would be dead.

0:39.6

Now, I spent a lot of my 20s not only drinking, but also sober because I was in and out of

0:47.8

the program.

0:48.8

And I think those moments helped me get some perspective at times.

0:53.0

And I think it was from that that I was able to have enough of mindfulness to be able

1:00.2

to think about where I wanted my life to go.

1:03.6

And so I made that decision to say, okay, here's how I'm going to show people that I know

1:11.5

how to cook and that I can do this and I can do this restaurant business thing.

1:15.9

And I'll start by showing people what I want to do, which has grown my own things and make

1:20.7

food from them.

1:22.4

That is what I do and that's what I love to do and it's an expression of myself and

1:26.7

I love cooking.

1:28.6

That's Ilyana Regan and this is the RetroL podcast.

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