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Checks and Balance: “Refund the police”

Checks and Balance from The Economist

The Economist

Politics, News & Politics, News, Us Politics

4.61.7K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2022

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

After George Floyd’s murder protestors took to the streets, angry about racially-motivated brutality and discrimination. They urged authorities to “defund the police” and over 20 cities listened. But now, with rising murder rates, many of those same places are increasing investment in law enforcement. Can you “refund” and reform the police at the same time?  


Mayor of Portland, Oregon Ted Wheeler tells us why his city is raising its police budget. We go back to a war on crime that’s been largely forgotten. And criminal justice reformer David Muhammad discusses the best ways to cut crime while also fixing policing.


John Prideaux presents with Charlotte Howard and Jon Fasman.  


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0:00.0

In the days and weeks after George Floyd was murdered by Derek Chauvin, a white police

0:06.2

officer, protesters took to the streets across America.

0:10.4

Angry about a long history of racially motivated brutality and discrimination, they urged the

0:15.2

authorities to defund the police.

0:19.0

Politicians listened, with over 20 cities cutting their police budgets.

0:22.5

But now, many of those same city governments are increasing investment in law enforcement.

0:28.3

Defund the police, if you will.

0:31.1

What's behind this apparent U-turn?

0:34.1

I'm John Prado and this is Chex and Balance.

0:40.0

Each week we take one big theme shaping American politics and explore it in depth.

0:47.5

Today, can you refund and reform the police?

0:58.0

At the same time.

1:06.6

Although crime overall hasn't risen during the pandemic, murders and shootings have.

1:12.0

To be clear, this crime wave is much smaller than the long one that lasted from the 1960s

1:17.2

to the 1990s.

1:18.9

But it's still pretty bad, at least 16 cities set an all-time homicide record in 2021.

1:26.5

There's a pumping money back into law enforcement in the hope that this will stem the bleeding.

1:32.2

But how can police forces bring down crime without repeating the mistakes of the past?

1:48.7

With me as ever, to discuss the defunding and refunding of American police forces are

1:54.0

Charlotte Howard, the economist's New York bureau chief and John Fassmann, the US digital

1:59.0

editor.

2:00.0

Charlotte, what's the word?

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