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Checks and Balance from The Economist
The Economist
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🗓️ 15 January 2021
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
In the last week of his presidency Donald Trump is being purged from the political mainstream. Congress has impeached him again. He has been booted off social media. A major golf tournament has been pulled from one of his courses. How should Donald Trump and his followers be held to account for damaging American democracy?
We speak to Elizabeth Neumann, who led the counterterrorism office at the Department of Homeland Security, and Megan Squire, a professor of computer science at Elon University who tracks online extremism. The Economist correspondents Steven Mazie and Leo Mirani also join us.
John Prideaux, our US editor, hosts with New York bureau chief Charlotte Howard and Jon Fasman, US digital editor.
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| 0:00.0 | The Pizza at Comet Ping Pong gets great reviews. |
| 0:04.0 | It's on one of those wide avenues that stretch for miles through Washington Swankier suburbs. |
| 0:09.0 | There's a vegan pizza for 16 bucks. |
| 0:12.0 | Of course, if you want to try it yourself these days |
| 0:15.3 | you'll have to get take-out or brave the patio seating in January. Just before the |
| 0:20.8 | 2016 election Comet ping-pong's Instagram picked up a load of new followers, |
| 0:26.1 | but they weren't commenting on the food or the distressed industrial decor. |
| 0:31.0 | The messages said things like, we're on to you. Staff started getting death threats. |
| 0:38.0 | One Sunday afternoon a month after the election, a 28 yearold white man walked in with an assault rifle. |
| 0:45.2 | He'd been reading about John Pedestas hacked emails. |
| 0:48.2 | People were saying they revealed how Hillary Clinton's campaign boss was part of a pedophile ring linked to the Democratic Party and run from the restaurant's back rooms. |
| 0:57.0 | A shot was fired, but police quickly surrounded the place. |
| 1:01.0 | Edgar Welch came out with his hands above his head. No one was hurt. at the weren't there. Welch said later, the intel on this wasn't 100%. |
| 1:17.0 | Pizzagate was a warning of how readily regular Americans could take up arms against a phantom threat when their online diet of pet photos and sports gossip is spiked with ludicrous conspiracy theories. |
| 1:30.0 | Mr. Alephantis, the restaurant owner, released a statement after the attack. |
| 1:35.8 | What happened today demonstrates that promoting false and reckless conspiracy theories comes |
| 1:41.1 | with consequences. |
| 1:43.0 | With five days left of the Trump era, we hope, the economist's US editor. Each week we take one big theme shaping |
| 1:58.0 | American politics and explore it, death. |
| 2:04.0 | Today, how should Donald Trump and his MAGAM mob be held to account for damaging American |
| 2:10.9 | democracy? damaging American democracy. In his last week in office, President Trump has been exercised from the political mainstream. Congress has impeached him again, |
| 2:24.9 | he's been booted off social media, the PGA has cancelled a major tournament at one of |
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