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Welcome to checking in with Michelle Williams, a production of IHeart Radio and The Black Effect.

My next guest is a shadow worker.

Now, don't get scared because he is about to shed light on what men need to work on the most.

And this can be critical information to share with a man in your life coming up next here on checking in.

He's a shadow worker and integration coach that has a growing following on Instagram and TikTok.

Please welcome to checking in Zach Alexander.

Thank you for having me, Michelle.

Absolutely. I am so interested in everything that you do.

I feel like you have a relatable, a more inviting approach to healing versus what some people

might feel like another introduction into healing could be threatening,

pressure, but it seems like yours is, no, we all need healing.

Let me show you the way.

Let me guide you versus take a pill and come to therapy every Thursday at 3 o'clock?

Well, yeah.

And, you know, I'm actually not a credential or licensed therapist, but yet I'm basically

like a men's mental health coach in a sense, right?

And so for me, it's like, why am I in this field and how did I even get here?

Well, a lot of people, especially men, are even intimidated by the nature of therapy.

And so I think some of that exists because of the power dynamic that is there between even a

therapist and a client, just in terms of like you come in and I may diagnose you or something,

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