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Welcome to checking in with Michelle Williams,

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Y'all, my next guess is definitely a survivor.

Someone who knows what it is to be rock bottom.

Someone who knows what it is to be.

She's going to share her story, but someone who is a grown woman having to move back home, you know, with her parents, being embarrassed, being a public figure, a pastor's daughter, a pastor's wife, just her stories of coming out of grief, depression, shame, anxiety, scrutiny, being talked about.

I mean, she literally, as they say, takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

And she's so transparent, so vulnerable.

And she's just been, I feel like she loves on people that most people wouldn't want to be caught seen with or to be with because people feel like once they make it or get out of their pit, they become so self-righteous and that they forget where they once were.

And so I'm so glad that she is fulfilling her assignment on this earth.

I cannot wait.

I cannot wait for us to get into this conversation today. Who we are talking to today, an extremely amazing mother, pastor, entrepreneur, mentor, motivational speaker, and five-time bestselling author.

And my friend, y'all, please welcome Kimberly Jones, or aka Real Talk Kim.

Y'all, I can't believe, y'all, she's saying that she's not dressed the way she normally wants to dress.

But y'all, she's so fly.

Look at her accessories.

Well, y'all won't be able to see her, but I see her, honey.

She's going to keep a lip on.

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