Checking In w/ Cas Holman

Checking In with Michelle Williams

The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts

Self-improvement, Mental Health, Education, Health & Fitness

4.8 • 578 Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Michelle sits down with toy designer and author Cas Holman to explore the power of play in our lives. Known for her innovative approach to creativity and design, Cas unpacks how play can reshape the way we think, foster deeper connections, and spark new ideas. Together, they discuss why being playful isn’t just for kids—it’s a mindset that helps us navigate challenges, embrace curiosity, and live with more joy. CHECK IN to this episode if you've been suppressing your inner child!

For more on Cas Holman's upcoming book, Playful - click here.

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0:00.0	This is an I-Heart podcast.
0:02.3	Guaranteed Human.
0:04.1	Welcome to checking in with Michelle Williams,
0:06.6	a production of IHeart Radio and The Black Effect.
0:17.4	You play too much.
0:19.8	Well, maybe you don't play enough.
0:22.6	We're going to find out about the mindset of being playful on this episode of checking in with our friend Cass Holman.
0:32.5	I have been so excited about this conversation because I've been talking to a friend of mine
0:41.7	that it's all things creative and yes I have tons of friends peers in the industry and of course
0:50.7	in Broadway but to keep but to have these conversations intentionally,
0:56.1	I'm thinking we don't have conversations enough about being playful.
1:02.8	So I'm really excited to have Cass Holman, the author of a new book called Playful,
1:10.5	how playshifts are thinking, Inspires Connection,
1:13.3	and Sparks Creativity.
1:16.0	Y'all welcome to checking in.
1:18.7	Cass Holman.
1:19.7	Hi there.
1:20.2	Thank you so much.
1:21.3	Michelle, I'm super happy to talk to you today.
1:24.1	Absolutely.
1:25.7	We have heard the phrase, you play too much.
1:31.7	Can the response to that be, you probably don't play enough?
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