Hey, Zero listeners. I'm Christine, one of the producers on Zero.

Today, we're sharing an episode from another climate podcast that you might like.

It's called The Anti-Dread Climate Podcast from KCRW.

Please enjoy. And if you like what you hear, check them out wherever you get your podcasts.

Candace, what is your experience if you try to get somebody on board with, like, composting or bringing a reusable water bottle to the office or like any kind of those like climate friendly life changes?

Oh, that's my life, right? As an environmental educator, I spend so much time going and just answering, mostly answering questions. I will say that. It's not

always me running up people going, stop in the name of the climate. It's a lot of answering questions.

Like, well, what's better? A fake Christmas tree? I answer a question all the time. So these are the

sorts of things that happen. So my experience is that I try to be a resource, not a regulator. That's my perspective. That is a really hard

line to tread. I think it really depends on, you know, like if they ask me, like, oh, well,

should this go in this bin? Or if I'm showing up and being like, hey, did you know you put that in

the wrong spot? Yes, yes. I don't mind

being either one of them. Right. Right. And actually, this is sort of the topic that Karina wrote in

about because she is trying to tread that really fine line too. She lives in North Hollywood. She

works in a at a dramatic arts college in Los Angeles. And so because she works works in office space, she sees a lot of plastic and paper waste come through

every day.

I see.

I was wondering if there were any, like, tips or tricks about how I can influence people

in the faculty lounge to be more eco-conscious every day.

So she really cares.

She really wants to bring this up to her manager and her co-workers,

but? I don't want to be like that person that's like policing the faculty lounge and being like,

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