Peace to the planet I go by the name of shawle main to God now

Maybe you know, maybe you don't but I have partnered with I heart radio to launch a brand new network called the black effect

I had podcast network the place where black coaches celebrated and black voices are heard one of the shows that you know

I love I was a fan of before even partner with each other is my man mad bonds and Steven Jackson

Collectively known as all the smoke okay all the smokers are podcast that talks about basketball

But really they just talk about life man, and you know mad bonds and Steven Jackson

They don't bite they tongue for nobody some people call them out spoke and some people call them controversial

I just call them too real black men all right to real men of color all right to real individuals period all right

Mad bonds and Steven Jackson I've been on the show and that felt surreal for me because I'm such a you know

fan of the show man

But just to be able to say those are my partners and you know they rocking with the black effect

That means more than you would ever know man, so in a second you'll get to hear an episode

I paid on for the show and if you like it

I hope you'll go find all the smoke in your podcast listening app and subscribe so you never missing episode

Welcome back season two all the smoke from our beautiful New York location excited about today's guest

Someone I really look up to in this space one of the strongest black voices to me in the country Charlotte man Matt

The God thank you bro. Thank you for having me

I love all the smoke I love when I get this opportunity to actually be on shows that I actually

Fuck what listen to him fuck with you. Yeah, that's how we start right this club. This on be right

We'll get into how we really working together later, but let's just let's get into it man

The the climate of America is on the brink of changing. I think it's it's finally weird

It's naked head and and people are starting to realize that there's some real issues here

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