Cheap Fakes on the Campaign Trail
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 9 September 2020
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
It was a big week for manipulated video and audio content. In just 36 hours, senior republicans or people associated with the Trump campaign tweeted, posted or shared manipulated audio or video on social media three times, prompting backlash from media and tech companies. Last week, Lawfare's managing editor, Quinta Jurecic, and associate editor, Jacob Schulz, wrote a piece analyzing these incidents. To talk through issues of deep fakes and cheap fakes, Benjamin Wittes spoke with Quinta, Jacob and Danielle Citron, a professor of law at the Boston University School of law. They talked about who posted what on Twitter and other social media, how the companies responded, what more they could have done and whether posting manipulated video is still worth it, given how companies now respond.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | The image, you know, you have quotes from Susan Sontag to scholars of film writing about |
| 0:40.6 | how powerful and potent images are and they stick in our mind and their heart is shake |
| 0:46.2 | because we think we're bearing witness in a way that it's not like when it's told me |
| 0:51.6 | and then I told Ben and Ben told someone else and we have to sort of think that we rely |
| 0:55.9 | on that chain of transmission. |
| 0:57.8 | We don't need to rely on some credibility we say we see it and that's why it has such |
| 1:02.1 | a question. |
| 1:04.1 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast September 9, 2020. |
| 1:10.7 | It was a big week for manipulated video and audio content within 36 hours senior Republicans |
| 1:18.9 | or people associated with the Trump campaign three times tweeted or posted or shared manipulated |
| 1:27.4 | audio or video on social media prompting backlash from media and the tech companies. |
| 1:35.5 | Last week LawFair's managing editor Quinta Giresick and associate editor Jacob Schultz |
| 1:41.9 | wrote a piece analyzing these incidents. |
| 1:45.9 | They came on the podcast to talk about it. |
| 1:48.7 | So did Danielle Citran, a professor of law at the Boston University School of Law and |
| 1:54.9 | a MacArthur fellow who has written for LawFair and appeared on the LawFair podcast on issues |
| 2:01.4 | of deep fakes and in this case cheap fakes. |
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