I have the privilege of continuing my miracle Monday conversation with Che on.

That's a H.N.

That's a Korean name.

Isn't it, Che? Yeah yeah you're one of the first to

really pronounce it correctly by what do people say they call me chi they call me anne you know yeah

whatever yeah which is fine by the way doesn't strike me as particularly Korean is that

Korean it is Korean but my whole name is Che Ho. Aha.

But when I came to this country, they thought it was my middle name, and so it was just

dropped, and so all my papers, my citizenship is just primarily Che on.

And so...

Che Ho.

Does anybody call you Che Ho?

My mom did.

She did?

Yeah. Especially when she was mad at me. That's the classic thing, right? All right. So we were talking about this moment in your life that God has supernaturally called you to go all the way across the country with your wife. You have three kids. Then you get four kids. And you're telling me that even though you knew God spoke to you to do this miraculously,

it was a struggle.

So you're saying from 1982 to 1992, you're struggling.

Well, we didn't move out until 84 because it just took time to make the transition.

And by the way, it wasn't just me. I invited Lou Engel, his wife, and a few singles and others to come. And so we had around 15, 18 people that were part of the church planning team. And yeah, it was a struggle. 84. I remember after one year not seeing anything happen, I'll be on the floor,

just prostrated, weeping before God. And I would say, where's the God of revival? You said,

come to L.A. for a great harvest. We're not seeing a harvest. But you see, I believe those 10 years,

you know, and I would joke, the 80s were from Haiti's, because they were the 10 words years,

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