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The Counsel

Chauvin Trial Continues

The Counsel

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics

4.7861 Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2021

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Third Degree, Elie Honig discusses the long first week in the trial of Derek Chauvin, from the effectiveness of the witnesses to the strength of the prosecution’s arguments. He also looks ahead to the focus of week two: the defense.  Join Elie every Monday and Wednesday on Third Degree for a discussion of the urgent legal news making the headlines.  Third Degree takes on a different flavor on Fridays, when Elie speaks with a rotating slate of America’s most impressive law school students exclusively for members of CAFE Insider. Become a member at half the annual price with special code DEGREE at cafe.com/insider. Elie’s analysis doesn’t end with Third Degree.Sign up to receive the CAFE Brief, a weekly newsletter featuring articles by Elie, a weekly roundup of politically charged legal news, and historical lookbacks that help inform our current political challenges: cafe.com/article/the-stay-tuned-newsletter/ Transcript, references and supplemental materials are available on the CAFE website: cafe.com/third-degree-podcast/chauvin-trial-continues/ Third Degree is produced by CAFE Studios.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producer: Noa Azulai. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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From Cafe, this is third degree.

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I'm Ellie Honig.

0:33.5

I'm Ellie Honig. Welcome, welcome everybody to the concept of trial time. They talk about dog years. I think it's

0:50.5

one dog year equals seven human years or something like that. Well, trial time is even more distorted than that.

0:57.6

When you're on trial as a lawyer, I will tell you from personal experience, hours seem like days, days seem like weeks, weeks seem like month.

1:05.2

When I was trying cases at the end of every trial day, I would feel this overwhelming sense of just bone tired exhaustion. And I mean

1:13.7

physical exhaustion, even though I spent basically the whole day sitting or maybe standing in

1:18.4

place at a podium. Why is this? Why does this happen? I sort of figured out a couple reasons.

1:23.5

First of all, there's an adrenaline factor. When you're trying a case, you have this rush of

1:27.3

adrenaline and then you have the crash. There's a focus and concentration issue. You can't

1:31.6

drift off when you're on trial. You can't let your attention wander. You could miss something

1:35.0

important. And then finally, there's an emotional element to it. There's an intensity. Sort of how

1:40.0

you might feel if you're a very serious sports fan after your team plays a close, maybe

1:44.9

overtime football game, that feeling of emotional release. Well, we're now seeing the whole

1:50.3

country go through this phenomenon, essentially together as we all witness the Derek Chauvin

1:56.5

trial in Minneapolis. It's hard to believe, but this trial is now only one week old. Remember the very

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