Chatter: Journalism as Fodder for Fiction with Mary Louise Kelly

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🗓️ 14 August 2022

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Mary Louise Kelly is one of the most recognizable voices in American journalism. A co-host of NPR’s flagship program “All Things Considered,” she has spent years interviewing top newsmakers and traveling the world to chronicle stories about national security and foreign policy. And on top of all that, she’s a novelist. Kelly has written two books that incorporate many of her own experiences covering corridors of intelligence and international intrigue.

This week on Chatter, Lawfare’s weekly long-form podcast featuring conversations with fascinating people at the creative edges of national security, Kelly talked to Shane Harris about how she got her start, where her travels have taken her, and how journalism has proven to be a rich source of material for her fiction.

Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.

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0:14.7	That's patreon.com slash lawfair.
0:18.3	Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, lawfair
0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:32.6	I'm Benjamin Pollard with an episode of chatter for August 14, 2022.
0:39.0	For today's episode, the team at LawFair decided to cross post this week's episode of
0:43.7	chatter, a podcast hosted by David Priests and Shane Harris that features in-depth discussions
0:49.3	with fascinating people at the creative edges of national security.
0:53.6	Today's chatter episode is entitled Journalism as Fawder for Fiction with Mary Louise Kelly.
0:59.8	In the episode, Harris sat down with Kelly to discuss how she got her started journalism,
1:04.6	her travels around the world and how journalism influences her fiction writing.
1:18.5	This is chatter.
1:19.5	I'm Shane Harris.
1:21.1	This week, Mary Louise Kelly on how journalism is fodder for fiction.
1:25.9	I remember sitting in Pakistan at the headquarters of ISI, they were until it was service and
1:33.1	one of them kept blowing the most beautiful smoke rings that were floating up to the
1:36.5	ceiling and then a peacock walked by the window outside and I just thought, I should do something
1:41.1	with this.
1:42.1	What do you do with this?
1:43.1	You write it in your notebook and figure maybe one day.
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