Chatter: FDR, Charles Lindbergh, and Presidential Libraries with Paul Sparrow
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🗓️ 11 June 2024
⏱️ 80 minutes
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Summary
Paul Sparrow, who served as Director of the Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidential Library and Museum from 2015 to 2022, has written the book Awakening the Spirit of America about the war of words between FDR and Charles Lindbergh in 1940-41.
He joined host David Priess to discuss his path to the FDR Library, the history of presidential libraries, how the Roosevelt-Lindbergh war of words reveals much about the American experience before and during the Second World War, why Lindbergh never ran for president, the America First movement, Roosevelt's chaotic approach to intelligence, FDR's popular legacy, and more.
Works mentioned in this episode:
The book Awakening the Spirit of America by Paul Sparrow
The book The Plot Against America by Philip Roth
The book K is for Killing by Daniel Easterman
The book Those Angry Days by Lynne Olson
The podcast Ultra
The book Prequel by Rachel Maddow
The book The Wave of the Future by Anne Lindbergh
The book An Unfinished Love Story by Doris Kearns Goodwin
The book The Killing Shore by K. A. Nelson
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| 1:14.8 | Paul Sparrow on FDR, Charles Lindbergh, and Presidential Libraries. |
| 1:19.7 | The title, awakening the spirit of America is really important because FDR believed that the soul of America was the willingness to fight for freedom, right? |
| 1:29.5 | How did America come to being? People risked everything to fight for freedom from the monarchy in |
| 1:34.9 | Great Britain. |
| 1:37.1 | Well they were eating and at a certain point during the lunch after I put his fork down and he |
| 1:41.8 | looked at Morgenthol and he says if I die tomorrow I want you to know I think |
| 1:45.6 | Lindbergh's a Nazi and he just came right out and said it. |
| 1:50.6 | But one of the things that I was most fascinated with about Roosevelt was his ability to be |
| 1:56.1 | persuasive, how he was able to bring America along with things that initially many |
| 2:02.4 | Americans didn't agree with. |
| 2:03.4 | Well today as I speak you'll hear my voice is a little different that's not an affectation. |
| 2:15.1 | That's the result of a virus that has decided to attack my throat and chest. |
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