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The Lawfare Podcast

Chatter: Confirmations for National Security Positions, with Arnold Punaro

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🗓️ 30 July 2024

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

At the start of every presidential administration, the nominees for more than 1,000 civilian positions require Senate confirmation. A large number of those are in the Department of Defense, with confirmation responsibility going to the Senate Armed Services Committee (SASC). And whether it's a new administration or not, the committee processes dozens of civilian nominations for typical turnover reasons and thousands of military promotions as part of regular order.


Arnold Punaro, author of the new book If Confirmed, knows the Senate confirmation process as well as or better than anyone alive. For half a century, he has been central to the confirmation process for military-related nominees--including more than two decades in the US Senate (as SASC Staff Director and in other roles) and more than 25 years since then as an official or unofficial confirmation adviser for the Executive Branch. He joined David Priess to talk about the Constitutional foundations of confirmation, the overall process as it has evolved from nomination through confirmation to appointment, recess appointments and their limits, the Federal Vacancies Reform Act and its quirks, how a presumption of confirmation can get nominees in trouble, why senatorial holds on nominees are getting out of control, which aspects of the confirmation process need to change, and more.


Works mentioned in this episode:


The book If Confirmed by Arnold Punaro


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Welcome to Chatter. I'm David Priest. This week, longtime Senate staffer and author Arnold Punaro on confirmations for national security

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positions.

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I call it confirmation purgatory.

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You know, you get out of the the committee you go to the Senate executive

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calendar you don't know if you're going to heaven or hell and you know how long

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you're going to be in purgatory and some people never get through some people

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get through like you finally got to heaven but it took a long time.

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Administrations don't really use the two-way street of advice, not just when it comes to

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nominations but in just about any area.

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