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True Murder: The Most Shocking Killers

CHASSON'S RUN-Daniel Zimmerman

True Murder: The Most Shocking Killers

Dan Zupansky

True Crime, News Commentary, Documentary, News, Society & Culture

4 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

On September 6, 1982, convicted murderer Leroy James Chasson made a daring break for freedom from the Massachusetts Correctional Institute-Walpole—one of the most infamous, escape-proof prisons in the country. But this wasn't just any prison break. It was a meticulously planned, five-year effort, made possible by an unlikely accomplice—Kathleen MacDonald, Chasson's former pen-pal turned wife.
True crime author Daniel Zimmerman (SHOTS IN THE DARK) brings the shocking escape to life, detailing how Chasson, wounded and bleeding from self-inflicted wounds was first transferred to a hospital for treatment. Then, using a .45 automatic smuggled to him by his wife who was disguised as a nurse, took hospital guards and staff hostage, before fleeing under a hail of gunfire.
Dubbed the "Bonnie and Clyde" of Massachusetts, the couple’s daring run across the country captivated the nation and they would evade capture for years. Living under assumed identities, they nearly made it—until a tip from America's Most Wanted led to their eventual capture in 1989. Joining me to discuss, CHASSON’S RUN: The Prison Break That Captivated America and the Love Story That Fueled It—Daniel Zimmerman

Transcript

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You are now listening to True Murder, the most shocking killers in true crime history,

0:12.5

and the authors that have written about them.

0:15.8

Gacy, Bundy, Dommer, the Nightstalker, BTK.

0:21.1

Every week, another fascinating author,

0:23.6

talking about the most shocking and infamous killers in true crime history.

0:27.9

True murder, with your host, journalist and author, Dan Zupansky.

0:39.8

Good evening. On September 6, 1982, convicted murderer Leroy James Chasen made a daring break for freedom

0:49.3

from the Massachusetts Correctional Institute, Walpole, one the most infamous, escape-proof prisons

0:56.6

in the country. But this wasn't just any prison break. It was a meticulously planned

1:03.6

five-year effort made possible by an unlikely accomplice, Kathleen McDonald, Chasen's former Penn Powell-turned-wife.

1:14.5

True Crime author Daniel Zimmerman, Shots in the Dark, brings the shocking escape to life,

1:21.5

detailing how Chasin, wounded in bleeding from self-inflicted wounds, was first transferred to a hospital for treatment.

1:29.3

Then, using a 45 automatic smuggled to him by his wife who was disguised as a nurse,

1:36.3

took hospital guards and staff hostage, before fleeing under a hail of gunfire.

1:49.7

Dubbed the Bonnie and Clyde of Massachusetts, the couple's daring run across the country captivated the nation, and they would evade capture for years.

1:55.6

Living under assumed identities, they nearly made it, until a tip from America's most wanted led to their eventual

2:03.2

capture in 1989.

2:07.0

The book you were featuring this evening is Chasen's Run, the prison break that captivated

2:13.0

America and the love story that fueled it, my special guest, author Daniel Zimmerman.

2:20.9

Thank you very much for this interview and welcome back to the program, Daniel Zimmerman.

2:27.3

Well, I'm glad to have this opportunity to tell my story, tell the story of Jason's Run,

2:33.0

which is my newest book published by Wild Blue Press,

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