Having said that every day we're chasing excellence we're trying to make it better every single day

so I love that differentiation between because I think people's here excellence

I think that they think like we have to be the best we have to be perfect we have to be everything it's

not that at all it's about how to know how to move the needle every day towards that and

if you're doing that that to me is excellence.

This is episode number 84 with Ben Bergeron.

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I'm Julie Fushe, Family Medicine resident and former Cross-Fic Games athlete.

Here I bring to you information and inspiration from experts and everyday individuals for how to use lifestyle to maximize health.

Thank you so much for joining me. Now let's get started with this week's episode.

Hi there everyone, welcome back to pursuing health.

In this episode, I get the opportunity to sit down

with one of the most well-known gym owners and coaches

in the Cross Fit community, Ben Burjoran.

And this is actually his second time on the podcast.

You may have heard him along with one of his athletes

and two-time Cross Fit Games champion,

Katrin Davis daughter back in episode number 56.

That was one of my all-time favorite episodes.

I love how they've both helped one another develop

as coach and athlete. and if you haven't

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