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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Charlie Wilson from The Gap Band

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Jesse Thorn

Society & Culture

4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2013

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Charlie Wilson made hits in the 80s as the frontman of the Gap Band. In the 90s he was homeless on the streets of LA. Then, he turned it all around. Jesse talks with Charlie Wilson about his astonishing career with The Gap Band and his later collaborations with Snoop Dogg, Tupac and more. Plus hear stand-up comedy from The Daily Show's Al Madrigal, culture picks from Mark Frauenfelder, and which Mountain Goats song you should listen to immediately.

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0:00.0

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0:02.4

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0:03.9

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0:05.8

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0:13.8

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0:18.2

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of MaximumFun.org and is distributed by NPR.

0:24.8

I'm Jesse Thorn.

0:28.8

My guess this week is Charlie Wilson from one of my favorite groups of all time, The Gap Band.

0:33.8

I want to ask you this question about working with Snoop Dogg and I, it's a mildly impertinent question,

0:39.8

but I hope you'll forgive me for asking it.

0:42.8

But your clean sober is 17 years.

0:45.8

Snoop Dogg is probably the most famously not clean and sober person in America.

0:50.8

So how does that work?

0:52.8

Well, my wife went to him one day and said, Snoop, I don't want everybody around him smoking around my husband.

0:58.8

He was looking, my Snoop looked at a leg.

1:01.8

Who is this lady?

1:03.8

Is she aware that I'm Snoop Dogg?

1:05.8

Yeah.

1:06.8

So she told him that they couldn't smoke around him and everybody put their stuff out.

1:10.8

So when I came, nobody was smoking.

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