Charlie Warzel on the Pandemic Internet
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 23 April 2020
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
On this episode of Lawfare's Arbiters of Truth series on disinformation, Kate Klonick and Quinta Jurecic spoke with Charlie Warzel, an opinion writer at large at the New York Times. He’s written about the internet, disinformation, privacy and platform governance—and recently he’s been focusing on how these collide with COVID-19 and the uncertainty and anxiety of living through a pandemic. They talked about what the pandemic shows us about the role of big tech companies and how the spread of a deadly disease in the midst of a polarized information environment may be a worst-case scenario for disinformation.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | Instead of a moment of throwing our hands up and surrendering and saying, boy we need |
| 0:38.3 | these because otherwise we're completely alone and stuck in our houses and get bored |
| 0:44.0 | to death and our children won't learn anything, I think it's actually a time in which to |
| 0:48.1 | say to interrogate how crucial it is that these companies get this stuff right and how |
| 0:54.6 | important it is that we monitor this. |
| 0:58.2 | I actually think it's a moment in which we have to invert that idea and it's not that |
| 1:04.9 | it's a tech class but it's actually a moment in which we can come together and say, yes, |
| 1:09.0 | we understand more than ever how crucial it is to have this infrastructure but also |
| 1:15.9 | the stakes are actually really high. |
| 1:18.0 | It's not just logging on and looking at pictures or playing Farmville or doing whatever. |
| 1:22.6 | This is like, this is millions of children's information and data at stake. |
| 1:29.3 | I'm Quinted Jurassic and this is the LawFair podcast, April 23rd, 2020. |
| 1:37.1 | It's another episode of our Arbordos of Truth series on disinformation. |
| 1:41.1 | This week, Kate Klonic and I spoke with Charlie Warzel, who is an opinion writer at large |
| 1:45.8 | at the New York Times. |
| 1:47.7 | He's written about the internet, disinformation, privacy and platform governance. |
| 1:52.8 | And recently, he's been focusing on how these collide with COVID-19 and the uncertainty |
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