Charlie Warzel on Facebook's Original Sin
Offline with Jon Favreau
Crooked Media
4.7 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 5 December 2021
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
For the last decade, Charlie Warzel has covered the internet and culture at BuzzFeed News, The New York Times, and his newsletter Galaxy Brain. He joins Jon to talk about the architecture behind our platforms, break down how the internet has embedded itself in our culture, and argue that humans shouldn’t be connected at this scale.
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| 0:00.0 | I see things all the time where I'm like, man, that is a load of shit and like right now |
| 0:05.3 | I could tweet about that and so many people would chie-five me and be like you got him |
| 0:10.8 | And it's so like we should be roasting this person, right? We should be drinking on this person |
| 0:15.9 | The instinct to do that is just so intense, but actually like every time you do that you make the place worse |
| 0:22.5 | Yeah, we all make the place not the place we want to be the place that we hate |
| 0:27.1 | I'm John Favreaux, welcome to Offland |
| 0:32.4 | Hey everyone, my guess this week is Charlie Warzel, who writes for the Atlantic and has an |
| 0:37.2 | excellent newsletter there called Galaxy Brain that you should absolutely check out |
| 0:42.0 | Charlie's beat is basically exactly what this podcast is about |
| 0:45.6 | Which is how the internet affects our behavior, our culture, and politics |
| 0:49.9 | The big difference is we've been doing this for six episodes and he's been covering this topic for about 10 years |
| 0:56.4 | Long before it was cool to point out that Facebook is destroying our democracy |
| 1:00.7 | And that's what I wanted to talk to him about |
| 1:03.1 | It's been a little over a month since Facebook whistleblower Francis Hogan shared tens of thousands of internal |
| 1:08.4 | Company documents with reporters and the SEC and spoke out about the harm that the platform is causing |
| 1:14.6 | And there's been a lot of focus since then on Facebook's role in spreading misinformation |
| 1:19.1 | They're failure to enforce their own content rules |
| 1:21.8 | Instagram's effects on young people and a bunch of other alarming revelations |
| 1:26.7 | But as someone who's reported on Facebook and other social media platforms for more than a decade |
| 1:31.7 | Charlie thinks the real problem is more fundamental |
| 1:34.8 | That Facebook's original sin is the architecture of the platform itself |
| 1:39.0 | And then maybe human beings just aren't meant to be connected at this scale |
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